Canada orders ministry by Christians shut down|
'Nothing we could do would please them'
By Bob Unruh
Posted: March 21, 2008 11:40 pm Eastern
The Canadian government has ordered a Christian ministry that teaches
doctrine and the differences between Christians and cults shut down
because its reference materials were "critical" of the beliefs of those
who are not Christian, WND has learned.
So what used to be called MacGregor Ministries with offerings in how to
recognize and eliminate "faulty fads" in Christian churches has been
re-created in the United States, and now operates under the name MM Outreach Media Ministries.
Lorri MacGregor, who has dedicated her life to explaining the straight
and narrow of Christian beliefs since she found her way out of the
Jehovah's Witness system years ago, told WND Canada's version of a "hate
crimes" law prevented their work from continuing as it had for nearly 30
"Canada is no longer a Christian nation," she said. "And watch out
The issue of the ministry's charities license in Canada, allowing it to
operate as a ministry, came up during a routine audit of the ministry's
finances, which was uneventful.
"The auditor that originally looked at our books told us her supervisor
had said she wanted us shut down," Mrs. MacGregor told WND. "Canada has
very strong hate laws."
She said the ministry points out the differences between Christianity
and various cult beliefs, but also with respect, and never as a proponent.
She said the work always is in response to a question or issue.
"When a group such as Jehovah's Witnesses said of our doctrine we're
worshipping a freakish three-headed God (the Trinity), we should be able
to respond," she said. "We say, 'Here's the doctrine of the Trinity and
here is where it is in the Scripture.'"
That, however, violates Canada's hate crimes laws, and the ministry was
ordered to either make wholesale changes in its presentations, or shut
"There was nothing we could do that would please them," she said. "They
wanted us every time we criticized something to say, 'So Christianity is
equal to Buddhism, Islam, Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses… Just decide for
"We cannot do that," she said of the work she and her husband, Keith,
have spent their lives assembling.
"She gave us an ultimatum that we needed to say that all religions are
equal, Lorri MacGregor was to stop writing our magazine on the cults, we
were to remove our websites and stop selling any products to help [teach
about] the cults, and any future DVDs that we do on the Bible must not be
persuasive," the couple alerted friends in an e-mail. "We could not live
under those restrictions."
"We chose to shut down the ministry and we are in Washington to sign
papers to start up a U.S. corporation and also start the long process of
applyign for 501(c)3 status in the U.S. We have been told that within five
to 10 years, the U.S. government will be in the same position as the
Canadian government and t hey will also go after Christian apologetics
groups," the alert continued.
"It was a no-win situation. We didn't want to see our charity money
eaten up by lawyers," Mrs. MacGregor told WND. "It was
"We wrote on Feb. 7 and voluntarily revoked our [license] ourselves,"
she said. "We said this auditor requires us to compromise our Christian
faith, which we cannot do."
The ministry entered into the expense of relocating its corporate
structure into the United States, and is in the process of applying for
that nation's tax-exempt status offered mission organizations.
"You're not allowed in Canada to speak in a persuasive way about your
own faith," she said.
The effort cost considerable funds, although Mrs. MacGregor didn't want
to provide dollar figures on their loss through the changeover. "We had
been saving up to build a studio, because we don't believe in debt," she
said. "At the moment we are ready to start construction, the government
moved in to shut us down."
"They said if we were just preaching our own Gospel, and weren't
criticizing anybody else, we could continue," she said. "If you're going
to defend the Gospel, you've got to criticize sometimes."
For example, the ministry addresses the issue of "fads," including a
"creeping Eastern mysticism" appearing in some churches, "turning
meaningful prayer meetings into mind-emptying rituals called contemplative
prayer promising experiences of a spiritual nature."
"Feelings have often replaced the solid word of God," the website
"Numerous churches have become 'seeker' churches, disposing of the
parts of the Gospel message that might offend anyone's lifestyle. Crowds
come to hear contemporary music, followed by a feel-good message, and
perhaps even a 'conversion' experience, to an all-accepting Jesus. No
change required! They now consider themselves Christians, but are
Regarding Mormons, they have a list of cautions:
- "Mormons won't tell you that all their so-called scriptures such as
the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, and
even their official 'Mormon Doctrine' statements contradict each
- "Mormons won't tell you that the reason the Book of Mormon has no
maps is because there is not one scrap of archaeological evidence to
- "Mormons won't tell you that their prophet Joseph Smith was heavily
involved in the occult when he founded Mormonism."
- "Mormons won't tell you that that they encourage visitations from
dead relatives from the 'spirit world,' a practice forbidden in the
Bible. (Deuteronomy 18:10- 12.)"
They also note the misguided teachings of others.
"Neale Donald Walsch who wrote the bestseller Conversations with God
says, 'Hitler went to heaven' (Neale Donald Walsch, Conversations with
God: An Uncommon Dialogue, Book 2, Hampton Roads Publishing Company, Inc.,
1997; p. 35) And the reason according to Walsh 'There is no hell, so there
is no place else for him to go.'"
"The Bible states that the ONLY WAY to heaven is by grace alone,
through faith alone, in Christ alone. Universalism teaches that there is
not just one way of salvation but many different ways. The Christian
inclusivists state salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone,
but they change the meaning to be that His grace extends out to those who
do not believe (not needing faith) because he died for them too," the
previously has reported how proposals are being made in Canada to
raise taxes and fees on churches dramatically, as well as ban them from
meeting in some locations.
has reported on how many Biblical standards of behavior are under
attack by the courts of Canada, where activists who claim
they have "hurt feelings" are demanding – and getting – penalties imposed
against those who oppose the homosexual lifestyle.
has reported on the times that "hate crimes" legislation for the
United States has been considered in Congress.
Original article: World Net Daily
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